The all-new Vauxhall Astra Electric

[Thomas_Green78]

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/cars/news/fir ... c95e6&ei=7

It's fifty percent more expensive than a petrol version, but it actually has a front end instead of those boring panels where the radiator used to be. Don't think this E will ever be worth anything secondhand, and with depreciation and operating expenses, good luck recouping your investment.

[vendimoto55]

However, if you compare like with like, there isn't a 49% price rise.
Astra gasoline has a starting price of £26,810, while an Ultimate spec version costs £32,820.
A GS EV costs £39,995, whilst EV Ultimate costs £43,110.
If there is any interest, I'll post my thoughts once I pick one up in approximately 10 days.
It will be an excellent test of the real-world freeway EV range since I'll be driving it, among other locations, from Dover to Oldham on a Saturday night.

[RuthHimmic]

It is unquestionably beneficial to hear your most recent updates!

[Thomas_Green78]

Best wishes with the Astra. I know you're an electric fan, but in the real world, when pennies are few, do you have any opinions on the operating expenses vs the price difference between the two least or costliest models? How can car manufacturers expect Mr. Average to purchase a vehicle with a £13,000 price difference? I hope it's completely charged when you receive it since you may only travel as far as Canterbury, the only other town in Kent that comes to mind. It's only a joke!

While I'm here, tell me exactly what speed your electric drops down at when you take off the accelerator, and how quickly compared to a coasting ICE, say at 70, and are they all pretty much the same in this regard. I think the real question is how fast? I'll have to try one out.

[vendimoto55]

I'll start with the simple one and return to the others later.
If you maximize the regeneration, you seldom ever need to brake in an EV.
If you turn off adaptive cruise, it will feel like you've exerted mild brakes even though I'm generally on it at 70 mph, so the vehicles are doing the job. It's sufficient to turn on the brake lights. Around town, the deceleration is comparable to releasing the gas pedal in probably second gear on an ICE. You will have stopped 100 meters short if you spot a pair of red lights 200 meters away and decide, "I know, I'll step off the power early and roll up to them." It must be driven to a halt. Really simple to accomplish, long explanation.

[Thomas_Green78]

I'll start with the simple one and return to the others later.
If you maximize the regeneration, you seldom ever need to brake in an EV.
If you turn off adaptive cruise, it will feel like you've exerted mild brakes even though I'm generally on it at 70 mph, so the vehicles are doing the job. It's sufficient to turn on the brake lights. Around town, the deceleration is comparable to releasing the gas pedal in probably second gear on an ICE. You will have stopped 100 meters short if you spot a pair of red lights 200 meters away and decide, "I know, I'll step off the power early and roll up to them." It must be driven to a halt. Really simple to accomplish, long explanation.

Thank you so much. The fact that I was unaware that hash deceleration activated the brake lights was central to my inquiry. Real-time driving behind an EV has made it difficult for me to determine the deceleration pattern of some vehicles I have followed.

[vendimoto55]

I'll start with the simple one and return to the others later.
If you maximize the regeneration, you seldom ever need to brake in an EV.
If you turn off adaptive cruise, it will feel like you've exerted mild brakes even though I'm generally on it at 70 mph, so the vehicles are doing the job. It's sufficient to turn on the brake lights. Around town, the deceleration is comparable to releasing the gas pedal in probably second gear on an ICE. You will have stopped 100 meters short if you spot a pair of red lights 200 meters away and decide, "I know, I'll step off the power early and roll up to them." It must be driven to a halt. Really simple to accomplish, long explanation.

Thank you so much. The fact that I was unaware that hash deceleration activated the brake lights was central to my inquiry. Real-time driving behind an EV has made it difficult for me to determine the deceleration pattern of some vehicles I have followed.

It's not just EVs. If deceleration exceeds a predefined threshold, any vehicle equipped with active/adaptive cruise control will flash its brake lights. I think it is roughly 0.2G.
If a vehicle moves in front of you, cruise will apply the brakes if necessary.
If an automobile has overspeed prevention, the brakes will be engaged if gravity causes the speed to exceed the predetermined point.

[David_Smith2003]

I'll start with the simple one and return to the others later.
If you maximize the regeneration, you seldom ever need to brake in an EV.
If you turn off adaptive cruise, it will feel like you've exerted mild brakes even though I'm generally on it at 70 mph, so the vehicles are doing the job. It's sufficient to turn on the brake lights. Around town, the deceleration is comparable to releasing the gas pedal in probably second gear on an ICE. You will have stopped 100 meters short if you spot a pair of red lights 200 meters away and decide, "I know, I'll step off the power early and roll up to them." It must be driven to a halt. Really simple to accomplish, long explanation.

Thank you so much. The fact that I was unaware that hash deceleration activated the brake lights was central to my inquiry. Real-time driving behind an EV has made it difficult for me to determine the deceleration pattern of some vehicles I have followed.

It's not just EVs. If deceleration exceeds a predefined threshold, any vehicle equipped with active/adaptive cruise control will flash its brake lights. I think it is roughly 0.2G.
If a vehicle moves in front of you, cruise will apply the brakes if necessary.
If an automobile has overspeed prevention, the brakes will be engaged if gravity causes the speed to exceed the predetermined point.

Awaiting your observations vendimoto, having driven a couple EVs myself, I can attest that it doesn't take long to become acclimated to regenerative braking.

[BMW_Fan2020]

Vauxhall is no longer interesting to me since I have always been more of a fan of General Motors than Ford (or even Peugeot). This is because Vauxhall is no longer a part of GM. I have my doubts that they will be able to provide anything distinctive in this nation at this time, other than maybe somewhat less radical copies of Peugeots. I am thrilled to get rebuttals!

[godisgreat]

Vauxhall is no longer interesting to me since I have always been more of a fan of General Motors than Ford (or even Peugeot). This is because Vauxhall is no longer a part of GM. I have my doubts that they will be able to provide anything distinctive in this nation at this time, other than maybe somewhat less radical copies of Peugeots. I am thrilled to get rebuttals!

Peugeots are also somewhat cheaper and ugly.